Wie Gesellschaften mit dem Bösen in ihrer Geschichte umgehen können US Edition We like to think that education provides immunity to racist and fascist ideology. Lässt sich – politisch gesehen – etwas von den Deutschen lernen? Wie der Zweite Weltkrieg das Leben von Kriegskindern und Kriegsenkeln prägt", Deutsche Welle, 8. “By studying what they did and what they did wrong, I don’t think we can get a road map, because every country is particular. Susan Neiman tackles that question in her richly rewarding, consistently stimulating and beautifully written Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil. When the American philosopher Susan Neiman told her German friends that her new book would favourably compare Germany’s efforts to atone for the Holocaust with There is less agreement on what happened after the Holocaust, and whether Germany’s attempts to face that evil can be a model for other nations. ", by Lizzie Widdicombe, The New Yorker, 2019/10/21, "Susan Neiman on learning from the Germans", Prospect Magazine Podcast, 2019/10/25, "What Is Owed: Reparations and Reconciliation", The 1619 Project, Live at the Smithsonian, 2019/10/30, "Susan Neiman Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil", Forthright Radio, USA, 2019/10/25, "What America Can Learn from Germany’s Response to the Holocaust", Top of Mind with Julie Rose, BYU Radio, Utah, 2019/11/07, "The Case and Call for Reparations", Interview with Susan Neiman, East County Magazine Show on KNSJ, 2019/11/14, "We can be Heroes (with Susan Neiman)", Crooked, With Friends like These (Podcast), 2020/02/07, "Confronting Evils", BBC History Extra, 2020/02/07, "Learning from the Germans", Conversation with John Faithful Hamer, Likeville Podcast, 2020/02/26, "Statues, Slavery and the Struggle for Equality", with David Olusoga, Dawn Butler and Susan Neiman, acast, Intelligence Squared, 2020/06/12, "Germany confronted its racist legacy. Juni 2020, "Gegen das Böse hilft keine Impfung", Neues Deutschland, 23. Through focusing on the particularities of those histories, she provides examples for other nations, whether they are facing resurgent nationalism, ongoing debates over reparations or controversies surrounding historical monuments and the contested memories they evoke. We have to sort this through and say: ‘These parts of my national history I can be proud of and I can stand by, and these parts I’m sorry for and I’d like to do my best to somehow make up for.’ And I think, once you go through a process like that, you can begin to have a kind of healthy nationalism or patriotism. In clear and gripping prose, she uses this unique perspective to combine philosophical reflection, personal history and conversations with both Americans and Germans who are grappling with the evils of their own national histories. She explains why the US and Britain should take note, Last modified on Mon 3 Feb 2020 11.48 GMT, When Susan Neiman’s German friends discovered she was working on a book called Learning from the Germans, they laughed. Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil is a 2019 non-fiction book by Susan Neiman, published by Farrar, Straus and Giroux in the United States and by Allen Lane in the United Kingdom. Hanser Berlin 2020 - 576 S. Mai 2020, "Erinnerungsarbeit hilft", von Hannah Bethke, Deutschlandfunk Kultur, 9. It is necessary reading for all those confronting their own troubled pasts. And as we’ve seen in Britain where, you know, time has gone by, and people like falling back on national myths of greatness.” In part, she believes the Auschwitz trials marked a moment of change in which the burgeoning of mass travel connected ordinary Germans with other worldviews and there was an emergence of books by Holocaust survivors. "Susan Neiman's Learning from the Germans puts discussion of the horror of American anti-black racism into instructive, fascinating, and disturbing dialogue with rumination on the record of Nazism in Germany. One of the key questions she wanted the book to ask was, if we insist on saying that we have to remember the Holocaust in order to learn from it, then what do we want to learn? It struck her that amid the horror lurked a hopeful moment – a moment of potential change – and that she herself had “some knowledge and experience that I could share, that might be helpful”. März 2020. Publishers Weekly (starred review), May 2019, The New York Times, Book Review, by Deborah E. Lipstadt, August 2019, The Jerusalem Post, by Elaine Margolin, The Jerusalem Post, 2019/08/28, The Sunday Times, Book Review, by Trevor Phillips, September 2019, Washington Independent Review of Books, by Y.S. And, perhaps even more crucially, she has done so with an outsider’s perspective and the distance to ask difficult questions. Juni 2020, "Reise in die Vergangenheit", von Christoph Nübel, FAZ v. 5. Men were deprived of their liberty by, for example, the invention of the crime of vagrancy, which was used to arrest African Americans and put them to work in mines and in factories, often with the collusion of the police.“If you start looking at the history between the Emancipation Proclamation, and Rosa Parks and the Montgomery bus boycott, it was neo-slavery or an age of racist terror rather than Jim Crow, which is a name that a lot of African Americans are rejecting. Susan Neiman, author of "Learning from the Germans" talks to Christiane Amanpour about how Germany came to terms with the crimes of Nazism and why the US should take note Marchers commemorate the lives lost in a shooting at the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, South Carolina, 2015. ", von Wolf Lepenies, Literarische Welt, 4. In Germany, she says, there has been anxiety about the regional elections and the growth of rightwing nationalism; but she doesn’t believe the movement is so widespread as to become a problem in the way that Brexit is in the UK, or Marine Le Pen in France, Matteo Salvini in Italy or Jarosław Kaczyński in Poland. “They told me: ‘You cannot publish a book with that title. On every level: in terms of bringing old Nazis to trial, in terms of teaching the period in schools, in terms of building monuments, and restoring concentration camps and making them educational.” Meanwhile, the west was so busy fighting a new conflict – “old Nazis were the best people to fight the cold war” – that efforts at serious denazification went by the board. And it’s possible to come out the other side. Susan Neiman is a Jewish American philosopher who lives in Germany. Susan Neiman, a citizen-philosopher who has never shied from difficult topics, has mustered her stylish pen, formidable intelligence, and unique experience as a southern Jewish expat in Germany to produce a nuanced work of conscience with urgent relevance today.” —Diane McWhorter, author of the Pulitzer Prize–winning Carry Me Home: Birmingham, Alabama: The Climactic Battle of the Civil Rights Revolution To order a copy go to guardianbookshop.com. When I remark that prejudice appears to become more and more entrenched, she counters that the resistance to that prejudice is also growing. Some (including my husband) have found the book compelling and profound. Susan Neiman’s Learning from the Germans is a harsh lesson for her native American South Today Topics Writers Podcasts Magazine More Search Account Magazine : 12 October 2019 Mai 2020, "8. Doch sie blieb in Berlin und erlebte hier, wie die Deutschen sich ernsthaft mit den eigenen Verbrechen auseinandersetzten: im Westen wie im Osten, wenn auch auf unterschiedliche Weise. The book's thesis is that we can learn from the Germans, who have faced their racist, anti-Semitic past. Confronting Race and the Memory of Evil Susan Neiman: Conservatives will always say there is nothing to be gained in opening up old wounds – that you just destroy national pride and cause divisions. ), So what is the value now of focusing on Germany’s past? Neiman, who grew up as a white girl in the American South during the civil rights movement, is a Jewish woman who has spent much of her adult life in Berlin. From her home in Berlin, where she has lived for the past 22 years, Neiman watched Barack Obama give a heartrending eulogy to the dead, and then followed as governors began to order the taking down of Confederate flags, and Walmart announced that it would stop selling Confederate memorabilia. Juni 2020, "Zwischen Hoffnung und einem möglichen Bürgerkrieg: Wohin treiben die USA? Susan Neiman's Learning from the Germans delivers an urgently needed perspective on how a country can come to terms with its historical wrongdoings. Susan Neiman is the director of Potsdam's Einstein Forum, which encourages the exchange of ideas in open workshops, lectures and seminars. Imploring and questioning did not change the answer. Working from this unique perspective, she combines philosophical reflection, personal stories, and interviews with both Americans and Germans who are grappling with the evils of their own national histories. The majority had academic degrees. This week, Sam Goldman interviews Susan Neiman, director of the Einstein Forum in Germany and author of Learning from the Germans: Confronting Race and the Memory of Evil and Daryle Lamont Jenkins, Executive Director of … And in terms of the US, while they are not flying swastikas in Bavaria, she notes, they are flying Confederate flags in the south, encouraged by an administration that is quite happy to foster hatred and demonisation of the other. She smiles wryly at her strange sense of historical timing, but the underlying point is that she has lived in a succession of places in which the past lies heavy on the present. Free UK p&p on all online orders over £15. This latter part was at the heart of a recent talk by the American moral philosopher Susan Neiman, whose most recent publication is What we can learn from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil. Learning from the Germans: Confronting Race and the Memory of Evil by Susan Neiman is published by Allen Lane (£20). Allen Lane 2019 - 432 S. Only, she says, when you decide to be an adult can you begin to effect change. But I laboured on the chapter that talks about the east. Susan Neiman in Berlin on May 28, 2017. ", Susan Neiman im Gespräch mit Simone Miller, Deutschlandfunk Kultur, 15. Farrar Straus & Giroux, 2019 - 432 p. It simply isn’t so: after all, 10% of the country’s population had been members of the Nazi party, “and the most shocking, but also important thing, is they were not the uneducated masses. In the wake of white nationalist attacks, the ongoing debate over reparations, and the controversy surrounding Confederate monuments and the contested memories they evoke, Susan Neiman’s Learning from the Germans delivers an urgently needed perspective on how a country can come to terms with its historical wrongdoings. Philosopher Susan Neiman is a Jewish woman who grew up in the segregated south before living for decades in Berlin. Neiman, a moral philosopher, spent part of her childhood in the American south and she has written a comparative study of how Germany has come to terms with the crimes of nazism, and why the US, in failing to confront its own human rights abuses, should take note. Slavery in the US continued by other means for at least 90 years, she argues, and was sometimes even more brutal than the previous regimes. Publication date: 08/27/2019. Mai 2020, "75 Jahre Kriegsende Susan Neiman was born on March 27, 1955, in Atlanta, Georgia, United States, in a Jewish family. 11/20, 3. Susan Neiman's Learning from the Germans delivers an urgently needed perspective on how a country can come to terms with its historical wrongdoings. Neiman is the author of the Learning from the Germans: Race and the Memory of Evil. April 2020, "Das Böse in der Geschichte", von Jan Plamper, Faust-Kultur, 5. "Sollte man Antifaschismus etwa nicht verordnen?". "Man hat einfach die Schnauze voll von Trumps Politik". Juni 2020, "Der Holocaust und der Rassismus", von Thomas Steiner, Badische Zeitung v. 24. Susan Neiman is an American moral philosopher, cultural commentator, and essayist. November 2020, "Wie wir uns erinnern, prägt unsere Zukunft", von Sabine Bitter, Schweizer Radio und Fernsehen (SRF), 8. Mai 2020, "Was kann man von den Deutschen lernen? "Germany’s Lessons on Confronting a Racist Past", Foreign Policy, 2021/01/30, "Historical Memory and National Trauma", This Is Democracy Podcast, 2020/10/21, "Author Susan Neiman on Germans/Holocaust vs. America/slavery – Germans Win", The Al Franken Podcast, 2020/08/16, "Germany paid Holocaust reparations. It’s just too harmless to describe what was actually happening.”. Germany confronted its racist legacy. "75 Jahre Kriegsende She became a professor of philosophy at Yale University and Tel Aviv University. As Neiman examines the reunification of East and West Germany since the 1989 fall of the Berlin Wall, a long-delayed reckoning with Nazi genocide … Through discussions with Germans, including Jan Philipp Reemtsma, who created the breakthrough Crimes of the Wehrmacht exhibit, and Friedrich Schorlemmer, the East German dissident preacher, Neiman tells the story of the long and difficult path Germans faced in their effort to atone for the crimes of the Holocaust. In early adulthood, Neiman went to Berlin to study Kant, leaving just before the wall came down in 1989; after a period at Yale and a return to Berlin, she spent five years living in Tel Aviv, arriving after the Oslo peace agreement and leaving before the second intifada. She is thus well placed to examine the ways in which Germany and the USA remember (or don’t) the terrible crimes of the past, whether it is the holocaust or slavery and segregation. Neiman, who grew up as a white girl in the American South during the civil rights movement, is a Jewish woman who has spent much of her adult life in Berlin. Moral philosopher Susan Neiman has studied how Germany came to terms with the crimes of nazism. 1 likes. She explains why the US and Britain should take note Fri 13 Sep 2019 03.59 EDT Karlheinz Schindler/picture-alliance/dpa/AP Images Juni 2020, "Vorbild Deutschland? Nazism, slavery, empire: can countries learn from national evil? März 2020, "Von den Deutschen lernen", von Natascha Freundel, RBB Kultur, 10. Susan Neiman first came to West Berlin on a Fulbright scholarship in 1982. Susan Neiman, a citizen-philosopher who has never shied from difficult topics, has mustered her stylish pen, formidable intelligence, and unique experience as a southern Jewish expat in Germany to produce a nuanced work of conscience with urgent relevance today.” —Diane McWhorter, author of the Pulitzer Prize–winning Carry Me Home: Birmingham, Alabama: The Climactic Battle of … “And what it seems to me we can learn is, be aware of the beginnings. Der amerikanische Bürgerkrieg und der Mythos der "Verlorenen Sache". But you can certainly get an idea of: number one, how hard it is; number two, that it’s nevertheless possible; and number three, that a country can come out much better on the other side. Juni 2020, Der amerikanische Bürgerkrieg und der Mythos der "Verlorenen Sache", von Susan Neiman, DER SPIEGEL (online), 9. Susan Neiman vergleicht den deutschen und den amerikanischen Umgang mit dem Erbe der eigenen Geschichte. Juli 2020, "Man hat einfach die Schnauze voll von Trumps Politik", Interview mit Susan Neiman, NZZ, 8. ", von Susan Neiman, Die Zeit, Nr. It’s not the case that all a country needs to do is beat its breast and talk about its failures and its crimes, which is, of course, what the right always accuses people on the left of doing. She currently lives in Germany, where she is the Director of the Einstein Forum in Potsdam.

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